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Post by alexjerta on Feb 8, 2013 20:05:52 GMT 10
Warpig, you banned me because i said somthing about your girlfriend, oh know the world is going to end! im tired of being banned multiple amounts of times because i said somthing, what about all the times that you have bullied me and said that no one gives a dam about my personal life. When you bring up your personal life alot and everyone doesn't say anything. but when i say somthing that i find funny your always trying to start a fight with me. Im tired of all of this. Im thinking about quitting because, yes you are a BIG ASSHOLE warpig. I can also be a big one somtimes, yes i know. But atleast i say SORRY to people after. YOU need to grow up warpig YOU need to learn to say sorry. Im also tired of being treated LIKE SHIT on this server. Im always on helping people when all the other staff are offline than i get told to go away once the higher rank staff come online. You told me eairlyer warpig that you were helping someone when you showed no sign whatsoever of helping someone. I deal with all the other stuff from about 3-6pm i'm always getting left in the dust and after YEARS of dedication to this server and helping people, (here comes the asshole side of me) A girl who is on half the amount of time of me and helps 50% less than me gets inquisitor, like.... thats screwed up..... And everyone agree's with you because your a higher staff rank than me. Im tired of all of this BULLSHIT. Now everyone is going to be like, OH YOU ASS WARPIG IS PRO, WARPIG IS EPIC. Sorry, but hes not. Warpig, I quit. im going to play on a different server, sorry but i cannot deal with this anymore. School is stressful enough. Im just going to stick with playing on a server where people dont treat me like an ass. I just feel after 2 years of dedication to this server. My childhood has been thrown out the door. Goodbye.
PS. warpig, go to hell.
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Post by NanoGlow on Feb 8, 2013 20:11:33 GMT 10
now, i could say so much right now, but i dont care, i honestly could not give a fuck, not even enough to write a proper reply
all im gonna say is cudos to you my friend, you will not be missed
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Post by NanoGlow on Feb 8, 2013 20:11:56 GMT 10
ohh and yeah, im pretty well know for being an asshole
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Post by brinsta9 on Feb 8, 2013 20:49:10 GMT 10
Alex, doesn't this seem like your being a bully to Wolfie as well? You have said quite a few supposedly hurtful things to me Alex, and im tired of hearing trouble with you or anyone else who gets involved. If you leave, ok, see-ya, bye, but if you come back eventually, you need to learn to have absolutely 0% involvement with anyone that annoys you. Even /ignoring them permanently would be a better idea then people getting annoyed at each other all the time. And WOLFIE earned it for a a reason, at the time she had helper, and when she inquisitor eventually, i had barely heard of you. I build a bit of your castle, but i didn't really know you. And i believe, at the time she was elected, there where only 3 helpers, Wolfie, blue-eagle (who had gotten banned) and I. Wolfie won, and shortly after that you came on regularly. If you were on at the time, you didn't tell phoenix to add you to the vote, as was the option.
TL;DR: Wolfies always who you aim to offend to annoy warpig, how do you think she feels after being called "ugly"? if hes such an annoyance, ignore him permanently. Wolfie won it as 2 people were helper at the time of the election (me, wolfie), but if you were helper, you didn't notify phoenix to add you to the poll.
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Post by alexjerta on Feb 9, 2013 9:57:53 GMT 10
I wasn't referring to Wolfe brin, I was referring to you. And all the things I said about Wolfe is true. Oh and brin I said those things to you because you started being a cow towards me, whenever I joined the server, brin you haven't heard of me because your not on when I'm on. And people will miss me. I was a good part of the community on this server, I never called Wolfe ugly please tell me when I did this. And brin so I just don't talk on the server?? Because most of the staff annoy me??? I get treated like shit by them. And I don't say things about his girlfriend to annoy him, he banned me because I said something that had to do with his personal life.... Brin I'm on 3-4 times the amount you are on. On weekends I'm on from 10am-3pm. And I didn't get added to the poll because I had to deal with school and irl problems, I asked warpig to tell Phoenix but he thought I quit when I didn't. Brin you also joined the server last year I joined the year before that. I might re-join the server after I finish my homework..
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Post by alexjerta on Feb 9, 2013 9:59:51 GMT 10
And on weekdays I'm on after school most days.
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Post by alexjerta on Feb 9, 2013 10:01:26 GMT 10
Oh wait I forgot I'm banned......
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Post by NanoGlow on Feb 10, 2013 10:39:32 GMT 10
number 1, it is a temp ban which i lift tomorrow, number 2 you were the one asking me questions about my personal life, so dont chuck the shits when i talked about it to you cause you asked, alex brinsta has helped more people and done a better job then you, this is my opinion. alex i banned you cause i warned you so many times to stop saying the things you did, i warned you about stuff, then you made me mad and to top it off you were talking shit about wolfie.. AGAIN
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Post by alexjerta on Feb 10, 2013 13:21:57 GMT 10
I wasn't making fun of your personal life, I was asking questions... And you gave me warnings when I was talking to people that said hi to me... I got rather angry than so my angry brain came out.
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Post by alexjerta on Feb 10, 2013 13:24:25 GMT 10
I was mainly giving you tips about going to university and get a job that pays well. So you don't get stuck as a person who works at jbhifi. I wasn't teasing you in an way.
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Post by alexjerta on Feb 10, 2013 13:26:38 GMT 10
And I know that I shouldn't have said things about your girlfriend. As I stated before, I was angry at you for giving me warnings when I was taking to other people..
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Post by NanoGlow on Feb 10, 2013 13:51:28 GMT 10
alex, i told you i was studying for an aprentaship (how ever the fuck you spell it) i didnt need your help i told you that, PLUS you were asking about how much money my father earns from his job and what he works, thats a little bit personal dont you think
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Post by alexjerta on Feb 10, 2013 13:59:12 GMT 10
Yeah... I'm sorry about that...
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Post by xPhoenixXx on Feb 12, 2013 4:43:14 GMT 10
Empty message so my reply has blue background see next reply
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Post by xPhoenixXx on Feb 12, 2013 4:44:28 GMT 10
Ugh.. Perhaps i have been remiss in this topic, allow me to attempt to clarify matters; and perhaps give you a short tutorial on conflict resolution. We all have troubles in our life. This is what playing games is meant to be for; as a way to escape and get our mind off stuff for a while. Or, sometimes we build something that reflects how we feel. For example, There was an evil citadel on a mountain outside brotherhood n00bz made. Small, but overall looked epic with the lava flows, and cool. He had started a few similar designs before people harassed him off the server to pursue griefing with his sister. This server is considered a role play game, as such i would advise coming up with a "character" and maintain this role, and avoid discussions of your private/real life world. Especially where other players can see. We have private chat rooms for a reason. Bringing personal issues into the server is usually discouraged for a reason. It makes people uncomfortable so they leave or get angry. Likewise - If you don't like someone just leave that chatroom or ignore them.If you are a staff member this may be difficult to do; but most definitely you should not be reacting with more of the same. One thing common to both staff and players (being staff in fact should make no difference here) is if someone is saying something offensive:
One person needs to be the better person. To do this -
Firstly: This part is very important otherwise everything below will not work. - DO NOT RETURN THE INSULT, DO NOT VERBALLY ATTACK THEM AT ALL, DO NOT ADD MORE MATERIAL TO THE DISCUSSION - act like they don't exist; don't react at all. They should eventually run out of steam. (The only exception to this rule is if they apologize; at which point a change of topic is advised - and in fact ignoring them after an apology can make things worse)
Secondly: If they keep at it - which if nobody is reacting is unusual; and they are quite specific to you or your life(ie friends) this may be difficult. This makes it between you and them; so other players are probably not taking it seriously; so try to remain calm. Advise them what they are saying is inappropriate; do not use insults or attacks to do this. Make sure they see it; ideally a private message. and make no other attempt to talk or react to them. (/afk at this point may be a good tactic) I would suggest something clear and non aggressive like "What you are saying is inappropriate; can you please change the topic*" at this point once they have read this, say nothing further to them. I can not stress this enough. (* In some cases where the other person feels passionate on a topic; and persists, you could suggest an alternate place to have the conversation - however this is not recommended; as it will in their mind justify the argument and make them more likely to continue it in the game chat - we are aiming to establish that such discussions should not occur in chat to begin with; so even suggesting an alternate venue may set the precedent that the chat becomes a "meeting point" to start such arguments which should be discouraged)
Thirdly: if other players are reacting (this part is really important if you are a staff member; as staff should be in no arguments; ever.) PRIVATELY advise that player not to encourage them;
Finally: If you are not staff then leave the chat room )( /leave roomname), and move to another to keep talking to your friends (/cc join newroom, /cc add friendsname) or use the /ignore command on them[/i][/b] Now here is where staff comes in: If a player continues to misbehave - and the argument is not aimed at the staff member; suggest they move the discussion elsewhere as appropriate to the situation. Failing this; only at this point consider muting all those involved. /Mute supports a time parameter - this SHOULD ALWAYS BE USED Suggested mute time is 5-10 minutes, ie /mute pottymouth 5m.
On muting them, advise all of them that it is only a 5 minute mute, that it is nothing personal you are just doing your job; and point out the inappropriateness of their discussion in a public chat, and suggest they change the topic when their mute expires.
5 Minutes can represent pages of chat on an active day; and by that time the conversation should have moved on; if on the expiration of the mute the player is still flooding nonsense; consider if they are really talking or simply using a plugin; and longer mute or temp jail as appropriate. The jail used should also be a factor. Sometimes an interesting jail can distract a person long enough to cool down. Interesting jails include "mars" "biome" and previously "cybertron" where they can at least wander around and attack (or flee) mobs but are prevented from damaging land. Less friendly jails include "spawn" "jail1" etc
Final thoughts: Bans should be a last resort, they should only be used on players being both abusive and destructive. Simply shooting a mouth off should only result in the chat privileges, personal freedom or ranks being revoked. Bans lacking any other warnings before hand generally make things worse if the player is normally at least in action (if not in chat) well behaved. Everyone has a bad day, a game should serve to improve it, not make it worse.[/b]
BTW You should consider yourself a social "fail" If a conversation gets to the point that you are insulting each other or banning for reasons other than destruction; or worse still as in the case with noobz and rainbow the players had been harassed to the point where they gave up building and just started griefing to get back at the server (which is usually how a player reacts if they feel staff are bad.. even good players can grief) Letters of text rolling up a screen should not have the power to annoy you that much. It is like "your mum" jokes; if you react violently to them, then usually it is: a: a personal fail on your part - mentally. That was the aim of the joke in the first place, to make you look foolish. b: an even bigger fail on the part of the person making the jokes if they persist with them. c: a doubly bad fail for both if either of them take it personally. Now don't confuse "respect" or even `rezpkt with honor or the need to react violently. Insults by their own nature more often reflect badly on the person making the insult. By reacting to them you are taking personal responsibility for those insults; and empowering them to harm you instead. You may feel some territorial need to protect your own; this is natural, learning to cope with this urge, and to redirect these feelings productively is a part of growing up, just remember those that never learn to deal with these aggressive urges are usually the ones that end up in jail. (in the real world) And above all remember. It is just a game. Letters on a PC screen; unless you know that person in real life; should have little or no impact on your day to day life or safety. But equally, anonymous messages on a screen can have real world consequences if you push them too far. Don't use this as an excuse to act like an idiot: Remember: - US/UK/AUS/CAN all have anti internet bullying laws.
- Law enforcement can legally request logs of incidents. ESPECIALLY if a fatality or self harm is implicated as a result of someone shooting their mouth off
- IP addresses can almost always be traced back to a real world computer in a real world address; and a real world person.
- logs contain IP addresses
And one final thought. There is a group; think of them as the bogeymen of the internet called "Anonymous" if your conduct online reaches the point where you have effected someones real life enough to cause harm, and for whatever reason the law cannot deal with it; and you come to these people's attention - they will not hesitate to both publicly shame your indiscretion; and destroy your life in anyway linked to the internet - which is no small threat given everything from criminal records, bank accounts, credit reports, deeds, carloans, patents, identity documents, AND SCHOOL GRADES are all available from; and can be altered using the internet. Wow took me 1hr 40 mins to reply.. thanks for keeping me up guys..
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